Steve Menzies, the Peter Pan of rugby league, believes a stress-free existence is the secret of a long life in one of the toughest of sports around - meaning he is unlikely to go into coaching.
The former Kangaroos Test forward, who turned 35 in December, is the only player from the 1995 World Cup final still pulling on pair of boots.
The most prolific try-scoring forward in the history of the Australian game, Menzies ended a 15-year career with Manly by helping it to victory in October's NRL Grand Final and, at an age when most players are turning to their carpet slippers, he is about to embark on a fresh challenge overseas.
Menzies is one of the high-profile recruits for Super League XIV after signing an initial 12-month deal with Bradford Bulls, with no guarantee that he will hang up his boots in October.
So what is the secret of his longevity?
"I've been asked this a few times," he said. "I guess I'm a pretty relaxed type of guy."
"I don't stress out over too many things. You've just got to enjoy what you're doing for a job."
"In the last three or four years, knowing the end is coming closer, I've tried to make it fun. It's important to be happy outside your football life and to have hobbies and spend time with your family."
"Mentally is probably the hardest thing because it can be a grind training every day."
"It's important just relaxing and making everything enjoyable and fun. As long as I can do that, I can play as long as the body says it's okay."
"I had a groin problem two years ago and I still get a bit of tightness but, other than that, it's good."
Bradford's signing of Menzies, who won 15 caps for his country going back to the 1994 Kangaroos tour, flies in the face of Super League's aim to reduce its reliance on ageing overseas players.
Menzies, of course, is no journeyman but he admits he may need to win the sceptics over.
"I know it does look a little bit like that," he said. "It's just worked out that way for me."
"I always thought I would play at Manly and then finish. Coming to last year I was sort of undecided about whether to retire but I was waking up after games still feeling fresh."
"Manly didn't make an offer and I still wanted to play another season but I didn't want to play against Manly."
"It was pretty hard to get me off the northern beaches but, when the opportunity came up, it was definitely something I wanted to do."
"I had a couple of offers and, Bradford being one of the stronger clubs, I came here."
The laid-back Menzies is already proving a popular member of the Bulls squad and he is relishing the challenge.
"It opens your eyes a little when you've been in your comfort zone," he said. "I went back home for Christmas and found myself looking forward to coming back over here."
"A little part of me wishes I'd come three years earlier so I could have played a little bit longer but, saying that, I wouldn't have been able to experience what I did last year."
Menzies enjoyed a fairytale finish to his NRL career when he appeared in the 2008 Grand Final, equalling Terry Lamb's record of 349 first-grade